[ANSI-Smalltalk] proposed motto

[giorgio ferraris]

Hi, Ralph,

I also was quite surprised by some email from the squeak guys,  no
comment...
Your definition (with probably some work on it to make it a bit shorter, for
example without the final 'in Smalltalk implementations')):

"Making Smalltalk applications portable without limiting innovations
in Smalltalk implementations"

is what I think the project ANSI Smalltalk should have as main goal, and
also should alleviate the squeak troubles.

On the other side I think a complete divergence of squeak from the basic
Smalltalk classes (as an example, if the trait collection implementation
break completely the standard API and there is not a standard layer to put
on top), the smalltalk community, *including the squeak one*, will loose a
lot.


ciao

Giorgio


On Nov 16, 2007 2:05 PM, Ralph Johnson <johnson at cs.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> I thought of a possible motto for the ANSI standardization group:
>
>  Making Smalltalk applications portable without limiting innovations
> in Smalltalk implementations
>
> Or "Smalltalk VMs".  Or "Smalltalk programming environments".  Or
> maybe just "Smalltalk".  I am not sure about the last two words.
>
> The purpose of the original standard was to bring respectability to
> Smalltalk, to remove a barrier for its adaptation in large companies.
> Portability was nice, but I don't think it was their major goal.
>
> I think that this motto would remove a lot of the objections I have
> seen on the Squeak mailing list.  Not that I care much about
> nay-sayers, but it shows that they don't understand the purpose of a
> standard, and I think this motto explains it.
>
> -Ralph
>
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