[ANSI-Smalltalk] A list of interesting methods, not present in the ANSI standard

Bruce Badger bwbadger at gmail.com
Sun Mar 16 21:33:24 GMT 2008


Andres,

On 16/03/2008, Andres Valloud <andres.valloud at gmail.com> wrote:
> The intent of going through this list is as expressed before: to propose the
> inclusion of de-facto standard messages into the actual standard, as long as
> we all agree of course.

I guess it's good to look at things in a number of ways, and I'm not
suggesting that such lists are unhelpful.  I was just wondering how to
move towards structuring the STEPs that contain these selectors.  I
suspect that one big STEP for everything won't work :-)  This then
begs the question of how we break things down, hence the thoughts
about relatively small STEPs that address narrow "aspects" of what
should be found in a standard image.

> Just in case... out of the list for which you ask questions (e.g. on deep
> copy, broadcasting etc), I pruned out most of the methods and boiled it down
> to the considerable smaller list

Ah, sorry.  I should have ignored those.

> Perhaps become: is problematic, and this is something I'd like to figure
> out.  Isn't become: two-way in all Smalltalks by now?

I don't know.  Having been bitten by this in the past I am always now
wary.  Perhaps I need to forget that old lesson.

> The message identityHash is necessary for (customary) implementations of
> things like MethodDictionary, IdentityDictionary, and IdentitySet.  I do not
> know of any Smalltalk that does not use identityHash for these purposes.

Just my ignorance again.  I have never come across this as an
application programmer :-]

All the best,
    Bruce
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